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Welcome folks!

During the pandemic, most of us in the arts industry were suddenly stuck at home without auditions, workshops, or even our service jobs.

After reaching out to my friends to see how they were holding up, I thought I'd see who else I could grab a digital chat with. Years later, Pretend Worlds Real People has become one of the top entertainment podcasts with new guests every week!

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Recorded 07/20/2022

“You have to really believe in it, believe in yourself, believe in your ability.”

For our 100th interview, PWRP is joined by the incredibly talented, Kiowa Gordon. He walks us through the years following franchise fame, navigating the industry, and finding himself.

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“You have to really believe in it, believe in yourself, believe in your ability.”

For our 100th interview, PWRP is joined by the incredibly talented, Kiowa Gordon. He walks us through the years following franchise fame, navigating the industry, and finding himself.